Issue nr 336
Sunday , February 23rd 2025
delayed until Tuesday, February 25th

Past Issues : https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/ 

From the Editor

The last few days have been a busy one for operators in our area with new and  revised services starting. As a result contributors have been prolfic and I wanted to include as much as possible hence the delay.

I think it has been worthwhile as there is much to interest readers ?

A few further electric buses for Stageocach are now in process of delivery.

There are still further reports for the next issue which are really appreciated, thank you !

In this issue

First day of a new service for Carousel

New Stagecoach Oxfordshire route 600

Guildford Day Out with Graham Mildenhall 

Times of old and memories flood back

336 from Grahame Wareham

Oxford Classic Tour by Thomas W W Knowles

David Bell was in Oxford in 1975

Your Editor goes back to 1945 and his memories

Overseas Interlude

Paris with Martin Dowling

Readers Write

Fleet News & Developments

Adrian Small was in Surrey

 

First day of a new service for this operator
127 - Maidenhead to Reading

 
513 working the 127 on February 24th by Hirasawa Yui.

The operator has introduced new route 127, operating up to every hour on weekdays between Maidenhead, Highway Avenue, Knowl Hill, Twyford and Reading. This will reinstate weekday links lost many years ago, offering a regular service to communities along the A4 corridor as well as direct connections to St Mark's Hospital and Maidenhead Railway Station.
The timetable is coordinated with service 850, providing up to 3 buses an hour on weekdays between Twyford and Reading..

To view the new 127 timetable and route map, effective 23rd February 2025, please click
 here. 

More on the new and revised services

Gavin Francis

404 working the extended 31 in Beaconsfield on February 24th.
 

David Jackson

Having just done a round trip from Penn Pond to Beaconsfield, on the first day of this extended route, can I echoe Peter Cartwright's suggestion of additional stops between Penn and Beaconsfield. There is already a stop for Knotty Green by The Lion Of Beaconsfield, but I think there should also be a stop in Penn, perhaps by The Crown towards Beaconsfield, and The Holy Trinity Church towards High Wycombe.
Attention also needs to be paid to the stop at Penn Pond in the direction of Beaconsfield, as since previously there was a very sparse service cars have habitually parked by the bus stop. It needs road markings urgently to try to prevent this happening.


Enviro400 arriving at Penn Pond enroute to Beaconsfield enclosed.
We had a couple of close encounters with tree tops on the way down!

Thanks for keeping the Oxford & Chilterns Bus Page going for all these years.

Peter Cartwright

My experience of the extension of route 34 crosstown was bad- bus did not operate - I have posted details on my Facebook page and High Wycombe (HW) page today.

Apparently there was a shortage of serviceable vehicles and then I heard there was a collision between 2 buses in the bus station this afternoon but know no more. 

Stuart Harvey


An image I took late last week of the route that will no longer be after Saturday,
80481 about to turn into Windrush Drive from Hatters Lane, so sadly losing my bus route.


442, freshly out in Carousel Country livery on the extended 34 service. Here turning on St Hughs Ave from Hicks Farm Rise

New route 600

Graham Low


Stagecoach 80034 at Cowley Templars Square today on the new 600 from Thornhill to Redbridge Park and Rides.
There are no timetables or route numbers on bus stops at that location so far.

James Freeman


80049 with a 600 on Watlington Road on February 24th. 

Sanjay Baker


80036 seen working the 600 on February 23rd.  

Guildford Day Out with Graham Mildenhall 

Another of my “out of area” reports – this time a visit to Guilford last Saturday – 15 February 2025. 

Not been here for many years so was not sure what to expect but was pleasantly surprised when I arrived to find a busy and interesting bus station both in terms of operators and vehicles. Stagecoach dominate proceedings with Safeguard, Falcon, Compass and White Bus in support. Bonus was a number of rail replacement vehicles at the Rail Station as the line from Guildford to Gatwick was closed for engineering work and also in close proximity a Wetherspoons for a cheap beer and lunch! 

Have attached a few pictures (rail replacements on this mail) and will send others on separate emails which you may like to include on a future page. 

VARIOUS SMALLER OPERATORS


Fairmanns T23FMT Volvo B10M/Plaxton Paragon


D & P Coaches YR15VBF Scania/Irizar i6


Horseferry Coaches SN10CBX ADL Dart/E200


NP Coaches BU74Y
y Out with SE Volvo B8/MCV EvoTor


Cruisers YD23FMC Yutong TC9


Falcon BusesYX23OYH ADL E200MMC


Safeguard YX18KOD ADL E200


Safeguard YJ60LRO Optare Versa


Safeguard YJ67FYX Optare Metro City


Safeguard BV23NUM Volvo B8/MCV EvoRa


Safeguard BV23NUP Volvo B8/MCV EvoRa

     
74002, 74003, 74006, 74008 BYD/E200 EV


19342 Trident/E400 (recently ex Manchester)


27651 ADL E300


37270 ADL E200


36840 ADL E200

An interesting location with much variety. Ed. 

Issue 336 Grahame Wareham


H336 MWL970
1948 AEC Regent II with Weymann H30/26R body. Renumbered H870 in 1952
 

     
   
336  336RJO
 1963 AEC Renown 3B3RA with Park Royal H38/26R forward entrance body.  

336 was allocated to Cowley Road Garage and operated on city services for its entire life. It carried all three liveries during the thirteen years cumulating in a surprise NBC poppy red repaint two years before withdrawal. .  Withdrawn in August 1976 and sold to Paul Sykes (dealer) Barnsley but later sold on to Barraclough (dealer) Carlton for scrap. 

Unfortunately I never took a photo of 336 in NBC poppy red livery.

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25 years ago - Oxford Classic Tour by Thomas W W Knowles

It is nearly a quarter of a centaury since the Oxford Classic Tour became City Sightseeing Oxford, and I thought readers might be interested to see a few pictures of the OCT fleet.

     

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Oxford pictures in 1975 by David Bell

I'm glad you liked the Oxford photos I submitted. I'm attaching some I took almost 50 years ago in June 1975. They are not of the same quality as the others I submitted but I thought you would find them of interest. Unfortunately I didnt have a very good camera in those days and my photographic skills have also improved. I think most of them were taken in the Gloucester Green area and include shots of independents such as Charlton-on-Otmoor Services, Worth's of Enstone and Shurrock of Brill (HPP 628K). I think there is a shot taken in Cornmarket Street before it was pedestrianised

     
     
     
   

So these should evoke some memories from older readers. Ed.

80 years from your Editor  1946-1950

After the war was over

Wings for Victory display on a bomb site - 1946

Passenger Safety
A Blackpool bus was hired in March 1945 with platform doors to test reaction and suitability.

I remember as a small five year old being with my mother and aunt in Altrincham whilst living in Sale. We saw this bus and I insisted on waiting for its journey back to Manchster and so enjoying a ride home to Sale. Not ure my family were so impressed as we have travelled to Altrincham on the MSJ&AR electric train !

Manchesterer then tried their own bus with platform doors by Peters. This was one the 7’6” wide Crossley 2937

New buses began to appear
The Daimler/Brush Utilities  were the first new buses I had ever seen!
Then came more Daimlers with a new standard body style used on Crossley and Leyland chassis as well

Now some pictures of the ’40s buses

Daimler CWA6 with Brush “relaxed specification” Utility bodies 


My first was actually 4216 on the 49 passing our house

An interesting fact

These buses carried over registrations reserved for pre-war Daimler chassis destroyed in the Coventry Blitz of 1940

4215 (one away from my first sighting of 4216 carried the registration GNB486 which would have been carried by 1352 whose English Electric body was sold to Birmingham City Transport and ended up on either a Daimler COG5 or Leyland TD chassis’.

There was a plan to replace the chassis with some of the London Daimlers, which had Gardner engines  but this never materialised

Here we can see how confusing it was to the young bus spotter 

1946-1950 new buses 

4076 was the standard of the remaining 99 buses in this delivery.

It is seen in Pccadilly working my local route which would pass our house in Derbyshire Road South.

Other buses were Crossley and Leyland Manchester never favoured AEC 

My memories of these now far off days are still clear and I can still in my mind hear the sounds of the different types as if only yesterday. Somehow  those old  buses had a character missing in modern buses.

Paris with Martin Dowling

I was in Paris last week and have a few photos that you may be able to use.  Recently Paris has invested in tramways in the suburbs most connecting into metro stations.  T6 really is a guided busway as it runs on pneumatic tyres on a concrete track with a centre rail providing the guidance.  The vehicles are very similar to the conventional articulated trams used on other lines.  They are fairly quiet and accelerate well, but the ride is not as smooth as a steel railed tram.

     

Paris runs about 50 Alstom Aptis electric buses on route 56 from Porte de Clignancourt to Château de Vincennes passing through the city centre.  They are designed to look like trams and appear double ended although they are not.  The driver is in a totally enclosed full width cabin and doesn't seem able to see if passengers are touching in as they should. 

   
 

Although not a very large bus it has three sets of doors and wheels at the extreme ends.  The floor is completely flat almost the full length and then there are steps at the rear up to a couple of facing seats over the rear wheels, motors and battery.  Alstom only produced these for a few years and made very few sales.  Apart from Paris there are just a handful in a few other French towns. 

Apparently all four wheels steer at low speed so that it can approach a stop crabwise, although I didn't notice this.  They have an official capacity of 95 with only about 20 seats.

Fascinating. Ed. 

Bob Chalmers

A couple of interesting changes this week concerning Abingdon services. On Monday 17th an Electroliner (765) was used on the first X15 from Southmoor to Oxford and then on a X1 service from Oxford to Wantage - then out of service back to the depot and then later in the day back on a more usual 5 service  I believe this is the first use of an Electroliner on these routes. There have also been Electroliners being used on the X3 services each day so far too and whilst they have occasionally been used on this route before, there are at least 3 of them on it each day. Also today, Wednesday 19th, the 3 serviceable X1/15 buses (670/2 &4) are all on the X3 route - so what is going on? Any info from the depot on these 'changes'? 

Chris Huntingford

"As many readers will know, there are major upgrades to the Oxford bus network from this Sunday 23rd February.  

One service in particular is interesting, which is a new express bus service, numbered 500, along the Cowley Road. This will run from the BMW plant, the stop near the business park, then the original swan, before fast to the plain and city centre, with the exception of also stopping at Manzil Way. 

I really hope all the businesses at the top end of the Cowley Road will publicise this new route extensively. For staff and visitors alike, it could be a real game-changer, including for instance the possibility to have lunch in the city centre, getting to and from work in a reasonable time. It deserves to do well. I will try and drop off some leaflets at the hotel near the ring road. 

I guess the electronic departures boards on the side next to the bus doors can have a scrolling line at the bottom saying 'limited stop service'? "

Derek Taylor about Grayline

I live in Bicester and a friend who lives on the Grayline 21 service tells me that the usual bus now carries a notice saying with regret they will not operate the service after the end of next month. They believe Oxford bus is the new operator. There is also a rumour that Oxford are to operate the current 26 service at the same time. 

I thought with your contacts you may be able to investigate? Certainly Oxford are on an expansion trail. As you know they have the Bicester Village bus plus the Village DD duplicates at busy times plus the 108 . 

Be good to know I've not seen anything in N &P but they are quite slow these days.

Response from Luke Marion MD Oxford Bus

We have won the 21 service in the recent tender round and will start this from 30 March 2025, however will no longer be operating the 108 from the same date. 

We haven't won any of the other Grayline services, these I believe have passed to Red Rose. 

     Fleet News and developments   

Nice Ross


Luxury by Arriva! Coach 7100 reverses out of Bletchley bus station with the X1 from Luton, Dunstable
 and the A5 to Milton Keynes on February 18th 2025. 

Mark Doggett

Motts have recently added a new team coach to the fleet, mainly for Wycombe Wanderers FC.


Ex Stewarts of Reading, converted by AD to a high specification including full kitchen facilities,
seats at tables and a rear lounge. Shortly to receive a private registration.

   
Three used Mercedes Sprinters that arrived near the end of last season have been liveried now. 

Gavin Francis


69390 in Wycombe with an X74 on February 22nd.

Kevin Fuller

I notice that the First Slough depot now has two Streetlites in the new 'Corporate' livery - 47692 and 47694. I think that these were the last ones remaining in Southampton City Red livery - all others in the batch have already received Beeline orange/purple livery.


Photographed on a wet 20th February in Burnham here is 47692 whilst working a 12 service to Slough.  



Gavin Francis


225 with a Wycombe Wanderers supporters service on February 22nd.

 
228 with service 1 on February 22nd.

   
401 at the depot and branded by February 22nd.working the 34.


Memory of Chiltern Hundreds when 401 was laid up for a year and seen on May 31st 2024.

 
402 with service 30 and 409 with a 32 on February 22nd.

 
461 with service 37A on February 22nd.


520 with service 39 on February 22nd.

 
610 with service 102 on February 22nd.


884 with service 104 on February 22nd.

     
 
E200MMCs at work on February 22nd.

 
Ex First Volvos at work on February 22nd.

Isaac Alexander

I took the photo of GF10 OXF on the 22/2/25 and the other two on the 23/2/25.

 


For GF10 OXF rather hurriedly since I was walking down the street.  

 
208 with an 850.

Charles Powell spent time in Oxford with his camera.


516 seen in Queens Lane with a 46 working.

   
Queens Lane sees quiet electric workings on February 18th.

Lewis Anthony


Now appearing workinng the X3, 728 in St Aldates on Febrruary 20th.

Sanjay Baker


672 on the 17:00 35 to Abingdon this evening, February 18th.


An interesting super rear on 667 seen February 18th.

 
746 and 773 working the renumbered 11X now the 500 on February 23rd.

 
The 280 was absorbed into  the 400 and the last day of operation was February 22nd with 781 in Butterwyke Place. 


80524 on the 09:35 35 to Abingdon this morning, February 25th.

Charles Powell spent time in Oxford with his camera.


CSS 191 seen in Oxford MSE on February 18th

Charles Powell 


PU73HAM looks good in St Giles on February 18th.

Sanjay Baker


80810 seen working the H2 on February 24th. 

Isaac Alexander


685 working the 33.

Lewis Anthony


602 at Harwell Campus with a 94 on February 20th.

Gavin Francis

 


A selection of the current fleet on February 19th at their High Wycombe depot.

New coaches are ordered for the Oxford 737 service as hereunder.

BV74LNK Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001927929 Co 243043065 C55FLt 2/2025 City of Oxford
BV74LNM Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001927902 Co 243043066 C55FLt 2/2025 City of Oxford
BV74LNN Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001928053 Co 243043067 C55FLt 2/2025 City of Oxford
BV74LNO Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001928056 Co 243043068 C55FLt 2/2025 City of Oxford
BV74LNP Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001928062 Co 243043069 C55FLt 2/2025 City of Oxford


 
including Courtney, Newbury & District & Thames Valley

Reading Buses announced their new charity of the year yesterday, Monday 17 February,
with the reveal of the newly branded Berkshire Youth bus!

Now in their 18th year of dedicated charity partnerships, Reading Buses have once again opted for a local charity to support – with the aim of beating last year’s record partnership.

Berkshire Youth were chosen by the company’s employees after a vote between three shortlisted charities – with the charity romping home as the winner with just under half of all the votes cast.

Said Robert Williams, Reading Buses Chief Executive Officer; “Berkshire Youth are another great local charity that has great synergy with our network. We have often championed young people at Reading Buses, including being one of the first companies in the country to open up bus discounts to people over the age of 16.”

The charity will feature on board all Reading Buses vehicles via adverts on the screens and, of course, their very own bus will be running around Berkshire advertising their great work.

There will also be lots of fundraising activity throughout the year, including the company’s charity Open Day, which this year is on Sunday 29 June.

Robert continued, “We are looking forward to raising lots of money for Berkshire Youth, but also hopefully helping to highlight all their amazing work that some people may not be aware of. Whatever happens, we are looking forward to an amazing year with them – and who knows, maybe even another record-breaking partnership.”

Said Sarah Emery, Chief Executive Officer from Berkshire Youth; "We are absolutely delighted to be chosen as Reading Buses’ Charity of the Year. This partnership will provide invaluable exposure for Berkshire Youth, helping us reach even more young people in need of vital support. Youth work is truly life-changing – and sometimes even life-saving – and we look forward to working closely with Reading Buses to make a real difference in our community. A huge thank you to Reading Buses for this incredible opportunity and for supporting our mission to inspire and empower young people across Berkshire."

 

www.berkshireyouth.co.uk

 

Gavin Francis in Wycombe

   
Serving the 300 MX13BCK on February 22nd and back in September 2013 when new to the company.
 

Peter Edgar


Just happened to be in Thames this afternoon and managed to photograph Redline BF67GJU. 
It was back fresh from repaint into fleet livery.

 

Charles Powell spent time in Oxford with his camera.

   
80022, 80042 and 80045 at work on February 18th.

 Hirasawa Yui


15756 OU61 AVL Seen Yesterday on S3 at Oxford Railway Station.

Sanjay Baker


80042 seen working the 8 on February 22nd.  


Adrian Small from Surrey

First two are of the new Hydoliners: 


1 - 6804 (LV74 CDN) - Wright Hydroliner on route 460 in Redhill. 


2 - 6805 (LV74 CDO) - Wright Hydroliner on route 42
0 in Redhill. 

The next three are on loan to Metrobus due to the newest Wright GB Kite Hydroliners (64xx batch) returning to Wright's for modifications: 


3 - 6762 (YX74 ODY) - AD E20D MMC not in service in Crawley bus station. This bus was new to Hulley's, Baslow. 


4 - 6714 (YY24 PDO) - AD E20D MMC on route 424 in Redhill. This bus was originally with Go South Coast Swindons Buses 3998 for use around Marlborough. 


5 - 6715 (YY24 PDU) - AD E20D MMC not in service in Redhill. This bus was also originally with Go South Coast Swindons Buses 3999 for use around Marlborough.
 

Other Metrobus vehicles seen: 


6 - 6935 (BJ11 XHE) - Volvo B9TL/Wright in Crawley. This bus was originally with Brighton & Hove 405.
 


7 - 6070 (LV23 EYC) - Wright GB Kite Hydroliner last of the 1st batch on route 10 in Crawley.
 


8 - 6989 (YN18 SCV) -  With a rather battle worn top nearside we see Scania N230UD/AD on route 411 in Redhill. This was originally Southdown PSV 503.
 


9 - 3402 (BN64 CNY) - Volvo B8RLE/MCV Evolution on the ASDA shuttle route 900 in Crawley. This was originally a Volvo demonstator.
 


10 - 1303 (YX23 OUN) - AD E20D MMC on route 32 in Redhill
 


11 - HA033 (LK66 HBA) - AD Enviro400H/AD City on route 405 in Redhill.
 


12 - HT27 (SK70 BVH) - AD Enviro400H/AD MMC also on route 405 in Redhill.
 


13 - 94 (SK07 HMV) - AD E200 not in service in Redhill. This operates route 315.
This bus was new to Eve, Dunbar in Scotland.

This article shows the interest and variation in another location outside our area. Ed.