
Issue nr 336
Sunday , February 23rd 2025
delayed until Tuesday, February 25th
Past Issues : https://www.oxford-chiltern-bus-page.co.uk/
From the Editor
The last few days have been a busy one for operators in our area with new and revised services starting. As a result contributors have been prolfic and I wanted to include as much as possible hence the delay.
I think it has been worthwhile as there is much to interest readers ?
A few further electric buses for Stageocach are now in process of delivery.
There are still further reports for the next issue which are really appreciated, thank you !
In this issue
First day of a new service for Carousel
New Stagecoach Oxfordshire route 600
Guildford Day Out with Graham Mildenhall
Adrian Small was in Surrey
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First day of a new service for this
operator
127 - Maidenhead to Reading

513 working the 127 on February 24th by Hirasawa Yui.
More on the new and revised services
David Jackson
Having just done a round
trip from Penn Pond to Beaconsfield, on the first day of this extended
route, can I echoe Peter Cartwright's suggestion of additional stops
between Penn and Beaconsfield. There is already a stop for Knotty Green
by The Lion Of Beaconsfield, but I think there should also be a stop in
Penn, perhaps by The Crown towards Beaconsfield, and The Holy Trinity
Church towards High Wycombe.
Attention also needs to be paid to the stop at Penn Pond in the
direction of Beaconsfield, as since previously there was a very sparse
service cars have habitually parked by the bus stop. It needs road
markings urgently to try to prevent this happening.

Thanks for keeping the Oxford & Chilterns Bus Page going for all these years.
Peter Cartwright
My experience of the extension of route 34
crosstown was bad- bus did not operate - I have posted details on my
Facebook page and High Wycombe (HW) page today.
Apparently there was a shortage of serviceable vehicles and then I heard there was a collision between 2 buses in the bus station this afternoon but know no more.
Stuart Harvey

An
image I took late last week of the route that will no longer be after
Saturday,
80481 about to turn into Windrush Drive from
Hatters Lane, so sadly losing my bus route.

442, freshly out in Carousel Country livery
on the extended 34 service. Here turning on St Hughs Ave from Hicks Farm
Rise
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New route 600
Graham Low

Stagecoach 80034 at Cowley Templars Square
today on the new 600 from Thornhill to Redbridge Park and Rides.
There are no timetables or route numbers on
bus stops at that location so far.

80049 with a 600 on Watlington Road on
February 24th.
Sanjay Baker
Guildford Day Out with Graham Mildenhall
Another of my “out
of area” reports – this time a visit to Guilford last Saturday – 15
February 2025.
Not been here for
many years so was not sure what to expect but was pleasantly surprised
when I arrived to find a busy and interesting bus station both in terms
of operators and vehicles. Stagecoach dominate proceedings with
Safeguard, Falcon, Compass and White Bus in support. Bonus was a number
of rail replacement vehicles at the Rail Station as the line from
Guildford to Gatwick was closed for engineering work and also in close
proximity a Wetherspoons for a cheap beer and lunch!
Have attached a few
pictures (rail replacements on this mail) and will send others on
separate emails which you may like to include on a future page.

Fairmanns T23FMT Volvo B10M/Plaxton Paragon

D & P Coaches YR15VBF Scania/Irizar i6

Horseferry Coaches SN10CBX ADL Dart/E200

NP Coaches BU74Yy
Out with
SE Volvo B8/MCV EvoTor

Falcon BusesYX23OYH ADL E200MMC
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Safeguard YJ60LRO Optare Versa

Safeguard YJ67FYX Optare Metro City

Safeguard BV23NUM Volvo B8/MCV EvoRa

Safeguard BV23NUP Volvo B8/MCV EvoRa


74002, 74003, 74006, 74008 BYD/E200 EV

19342 Trident/E400 (recently ex Manchester)
An interesting location with much variety. Ed.
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Issue 336 Grahame Wareham

H336 MWL970 1948 AEC Regent II with Weymann H30/26R body. Renumbered
H870 in 1952

336 336RJO 1963 AEC Renown 3B3RA with Park Royal H38/26R forward
entrance body.
336 was allocated to Cowley Road Garage and operated on
city services for its entire life. It carried all three liveries during
the thirteen years cumulating in a surprise NBC poppy red repaint two
years before withdrawal. . Withdrawn in August 1976 and sold to Paul
Sykes (dealer) Barnsley but later sold on to Barraclough (dealer)
Carlton for scrap.
Unfortunately I never took a photo of 336 in NBC poppy red livery.
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25 years ago - Oxford Classic Tour by Thomas W W Knowles
It is nearly a quarter of a centaury since the Oxford Classic Tour
became City Sightseeing Oxford, and I thought readers might be
interested to see a few pictures of the OCT fleet.
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Oxford pictures in 1975 by David Bell
I'm glad you liked the Oxford photos I
submitted. I'm attaching some I took almost 50 years ago in June
1975. They are not of the same quality as the others I
submitted but I thought you would find them of interest. Unfortunately I
didnt have a very good camera in those days and my photographic skills
have also improved. I think most of them were taken in the Gloucester
Green area and include shots of independents such as Charlton-on-Otmoor
Services, Worth's of Enstone and Shurrock of Brill (HPP 628K). I think
there is a shot taken in Cornmarket Street before it was pedestrianised
So these should evoke some memories from older readers. Ed.
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80 years from your Editor 1946-1950
After the war was over
Wings for Victory display on a bomb site - 1946
Passenger Safety
A Blackpool bus was hired in March
1945 with platform doors to test reaction and suitability.
I remember as a small five year old being with my mother and aunt in Altrincham whilst living in Sale. We saw this bus and I insisted on waiting for its journey back to Manchster and so enjoying a ride home to Sale. Not ure my family were so impressed as we have travelled to Altrincham on the MSJ&AR electric train !
Manchesterer then tried their own bus with platform doors by Peters. This was one the 7’6” wide Crossley 2937
Daimler CWA6 with Brush “relaxed specification” Utility bodies

My first was actually 4216 on
the 49 passing our house
An interesting fact
•4215 (one away from my first sighting of 4216 carried the registration GNB486 which would have been carried by 1352 whose English Electric body was sold to Birmingham City Transport and ended up on either a Daimler COG5 or Leyland TD chassis’.

Here we can see how confusing it was to the young bus spotter
1946-1950 new buses
4076 was the standard of the remaining 99 buses in this delivery.
It is seen in Pccadilly working my local route which would pass our house in Derbyshire Road South.
Other buses were Crossley and Leyland Manchester never favoured AEC
My memories of these now far off days are still clear and I can still in my mind hear the sounds of the different types as if only yesterday. Somehow those old buses had a character missing in modern buses.
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Paris with Martin Dowling
I was in Paris last week and have a few photos
that you may be able to use. Recently Paris has invested in
tramways in the suburbs most connecting into metro stations. T6
really is a guided busway as it runs on pneumatic tyres on a concrete
track with a centre rail providing the guidance. The vehicles are
very similar to the conventional articulated trams used on other lines.
They are fairly quiet and accelerate well, but the ride is not as smooth
as a steel railed tram.
Paris runs about 50 Alstom Aptis electric buses on route 56 from Porte de Clignancourt to Château de Vincennes passing through the city centre. They are designed to look like trams and appear double ended although they are not. The driver is in a totally enclosed full width cabin and doesn't seem able to see if passengers are touching in as they should.
Although not a very
large bus it has three sets of doors and wheels at the extreme ends.
The floor is completely flat almost the full length and then there are
steps at the rear up to a couple of facing seats over the rear wheels,
motors and battery. Alstom only produced these for a few years and
made very few sales. Apart from Paris there are just a handful in
a few other French towns.
Apparently all four wheels steer at low speed
so that it can approach a stop crabwise, although I didn't notice this.
They have an official capacity of 95 with only about 20 seats
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Bob Chalmers
A couple of interesting changes this week concerning Abingdon services. On
Monday 17th an Electroliner (765) was used on the first X15 from Southmoor
to Oxford and then on a X1 service from Oxford to Wantage - then out of
service back to the depot and then later in the day back on a more usual 5
service I believe this is the first use of an Electroliner on these
routes. There have also been Electroliners being used on the X3 services
each day so far too and whilst they have occasionally been used on this
route before, there are at least 3 of them on it each day. Also today,
Wednesday 19th, the 3 serviceable X1/15 buses (670/2 &4) are all on the X3
route - so what is going on? Any info from the depot on these 'changes'?
Chris Huntingford
"As many readers will
know, there are major upgrades to the Oxford bus network from this Sunday
23rd February.
One service in
particular is interesting, which is a new express bus service, numbered 500,
along the Cowley Road. This will run from the BMW plant, the stop near the
business park, then the original swan, before fast to the plain and city
centre, with the exception of also stopping at Manzil Way.
I really hope all the
businesses at the top end of the Cowley Road will publicise this new route
extensively. For staff and visitors alike, it could be a real game-changer,
including for instance the possibility to have lunch in the city centre,
getting to and from work in a reasonable time. It deserves to do well. I
will try and drop off some leaflets at the hotel near the ring road.
I guess the electronic departures boards on the side next to the bus doors
can have a scrolling line at the bottom saying 'limited stop service'? "
Derek Taylor about Grayline
I live in Bicester and a friend who lives on the Grayline 21 service tells
me that the usual bus now carries a notice saying with regret they will not
operate the service after the end of next month. They believe Oxford bus is
the new operator. There is also a rumour that Oxford are to operate the
current 26 service at the same time.
I thought with your contacts you may be able to investigate? Certainly
Oxford are on an expansion trail. As you know they have the Bicester Village
bus plus the Village DD duplicates at busy times plus the 108 .
Be good to know I've not seen anything in N &P but they are quite slow these
days.
Response from Luke Marion MD Oxford Bus
We have won the 21 service in the recent tender round and will start this
from 30 March 2025, however will no longer be operating the 108 from the
same date.
We haven't won any of the other Grayline services, these I believe have passed to Red Rose.
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Fleet News and developments


Nice Ross

Luxury by Arriva! Coach 7100 reverses out of Bletchley bus station with the
X1 from Luton, Dunstable
and the A5 to Milton Keynes on February 18th 2025
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Mark Doggett
Motts have recently added a new team coach to the
fleet, mainly for Wycombe Wanderers FC.

Ex Stewarts of Reading, converted by AD to a high
specification including full kitchen facilities,
seats at tables and a rear
lounge.

Three used Mercedes Sprinters that arrived near
the end of last season have been liveried now.
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Gavin Francis

69390 in Wycombe with an X74 on
February 22nd.
Kevin Fuller
I notice that the First Slough depot now has two Streetlites in the new
'Corporate' livery - 47692 and 47694.

Photographed on a wet 20th February in Burnham here is 47692 whilst working
a 12 service to Slough.
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Gavin Francis

225 with a Wycombe Wanderers supporters service
on February 22nd.
228 with service 1 on February 22nd.

401 at the depot and branded by February
22nd.working the 34.

Memory of Chiltern Hundreds when 401 was laid up
for a year and seen on May 31st 2024.

402 with service 30 and 409 with a 32 on February
22nd.

461 with service 37A on February 22nd.

520 with service 39 on February 22nd.

610 with service 102 on February 22nd.

884 with service 104 on February 22nd.


E200MMCs at work on February 22nd.

Ex First Volvos at work on February 22nd.
Isaac Alexander
I took the photo of GF10 OXF on the 22/2/25 and the other two on the 23/2/25.

For GF10 OXF rather hurriedly since I was walking
down the street.

Charles Powell spent time in Oxford with his camera.

516 seen in Queens Lane with a 46 working.

Queens Lane sees quiet electric workings on February 18th.
Lewis Anthony

Now appearing workinng the X3, 728 in St Aldates
on Febrruary 20th.
Sanjay Baker

672 on the 17:00 35 to Abingdon this evening, February 18th.

An interesting super rear on 667 seen February 18th.

746 and 773 working the renumbered 11X now the 500 on February 23rd.

The 280 was absorbed into the 400 and the last day of operation
was February 22nd with 781 in Butterwyke Place.

80524 on the 09:35 35 to Abingdon this morning, February 25th.

Charles Powell spent time in Oxford with his camera.
MSE on February 18th

Charles Powell

PU73HAM looks good in St Giles on February 18th.
Sanjay Baker

Isaac Alexander
Lewis Anthony
on February 20th.
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Gavin Francis

A selection of the current fleet on February 19th
at their High Wycombe depot.
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New coaches are ordered for the Oxford 737 service as hereunder.
| BV74LNK | Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001927929 | Co 243043065 | C55FLt | 2/2025 | City of Oxford |
| BV74LNM | Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001927902 | Co 243043066 | C55FLt | 2/2025 | City of Oxford |
| BV74LNN | Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001928053 | Co 243043067 | C55FLt | 2/2025 | City of Oxford |
| BV74LNO | Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001928056 | Co 243043068 | C55FLt | 2/2025 | City of Oxford |
| BV74LNP | Sca K410CB6 YS2K6X20001928062 | Co 243043069 | C55FLt | 2/2025 | City of Oxford |

including Courtney, Newbury & District &
Thames Valley
Reading Buses announced their new charity of the
year yesterday, Monday 17 February,
with the reveal of the newly branded
Berkshire Youth bus!
Now in their 18th
year of dedicated charity partnerships, Reading Buses have once again opted
for a local charity to support – with the aim of beating last year’s record
partnership.
Berkshire Youth were chosen by the company’s
employees after a vote between three shortlisted charities – with the
charity romping home as the winner with just under half of all the votes
cast.
Said Robert Williams, Reading Buses Chief Executive
Officer; “Berkshire Youth are another great local charity that has great
synergy with our network. We have often championed young people at Reading
Buses, including being one of the first companies in the country to open up
bus discounts to people over the age of 16.”
The charity will feature on board all Reading Buses
vehicles via adverts on the screens and, of course, their very own bus will
be running around Berkshire advertising their great work.
There will also be lots of fundraising activity
throughout the year, including the company’s charity Open Day, which this
year is on Sunday 29 June.
Robert continued, “We are looking forward to raising
lots of money for Berkshire Youth, but also hopefully helping to highlight
all their amazing work that some people may not be aware of. Whatever
happens, we are looking forward to an amazing year with them – and who
knows, maybe even another record-breaking partnership.”
Said Sarah Emery, Chief Executive Officer from Berkshire Youth; "We are absolutely delighted to be chosen as Reading Buses’ Charity of the Year. This partnership will provide invaluable exposure for Berkshire Youth, helping us reach even more young people in need of vital support. Youth work is truly life-changing – and sometimes even life-saving – and we look forward to working closely with Reading Buses to make a real difference in our community. A huge thank you to Reading Buses for this incredible opportunity and for supporting our mission to inspire and empower young people across Berkshire."
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Gavin Francis in Wycombe

Serving the 300 MX13BCK on February 22nd and back in September 2013 when
new to the company.
Peter Edgar

Just happened to be in Thames this afternoon and managed to
photograph Redline BF67GJU.
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Charles Powell spent time in Oxford with his camera.

80022, 80042 and 80045 at work on February 18th.
Hirasawa Yui

15756 OU61 AVL Seen Yesterday on S3 at Oxford Railway Station.
Sanjay Baker
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Adrian Small from Surrey

First two are of the new Hydoliners:

1 - 6804 (LV74 CDN) - Wright Hydroliner on route
460 in Redhill.

2 - 6805 (LV74 CDO) - Wright Hydroliner on route 420
in Redhill.
The next three are on loan to Metrobus due to the
newest Wright GB Kite Hydroliners (64xx batch) returning to Wright's for
modifications:

3 - 6762 (YX74 ODY) - AD E20D MMC not in service
in Crawley bus station. This bus was new to Hulley's, Baslow.

4 - 6714 (YY24 PDO) - AD E20D MMC on route 424 in
Redhill. This bus was originally with Go South Coast Swindons Buses 3998 for
use around Marlborough.

5 - 6715 (YY24 PDU) - AD E20D MMC not in service in Redhill. This bus was
also originally with Go South Coast Swindons Buses 3999 for use around
Marlborough.
Other Metrobus vehicles seen:

6 - 6935 (BJ11 XHE) - Volvo B9TL/Wright in Crawley. This bus was originally
with Brighton & Hove 405.

7 - 6070 (LV23 EYC) - Wright GB Kite Hydroliner last of the 1st batch on
route 10 in Crawley.

8 - 6989 (YN18 SCV) - With a rather battle worn top nearside we see
Scania N230UD/AD on route 411 in Redhill. This was originally Southdown PSV
503.


9 - 3402 (BN64 CNY) - Volvo B8RLE/MCV Evolution on the ASDA shuttle route
900 in Crawley. This was originally a Volvo demonstator.

10 - 1303 (YX23 OUN) - AD E20D MMC on route 32 in Redhill


11 - HA033 (LK66 HBA) - AD Enviro400H/AD City on route 405 in Redhill.

12 - HT27 (SK70 BVH) - AD Enviro400H/AD MMC also on route 405 in Redhill.


13 - 94 (SK07 HMV) - AD E200 not in service in Redhill. This operates route
315.
This bus was new to Eve, Dunbar in Scotland.
This article shows the interest and variation in another location outside our area. Ed.
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